yes

 nah dude you better go deliver some more pizzas and pay an extra 250 on top of your offer

 22 lbs

 12266687395

 re message me, its just shipping is a pain and i dont want to be left paying for it if u back down

 would ship at buyers expense but i need to know they are serious

 nope but you can run em on it

 if u pick up sure

 oh dont be such a blue rim whore

 maybe depends

 like 40 max but probably less

 plus your soul and its a deal

 http://www.pinkbike.com/video/229695/ made that for you

 Hey bud, your the one lacking logic. The Chain tensioners are BUILT IN. Good luck trying to find how to do that with a complete frame. it would require drilling and threading and finding those small metal pieces. So unless you think i have mad skills and can do that, then your obviously just mad because you have been proved wrong . The photos are enough proof, the frame is not a complete; look at the colour scheme. I think your confused thinking it is the Funday 2 which is actually a year or so newer. Your wrong get over yourself and move on. Have a nice day

 Hey bud, your the one lacking logic. The Chain tensioners are BUILT IN. Good luck trying to find how to do that with a complete frame. it would require drilling and threading and finding those small metal pieces. So unless you think i have mad skills and can do that, then your obviously just mad because you have been proved wrong . The photos are enough proof, the frame is not a complete; look at the colour scheme its a V2. I think your confused thinking it is the Funday 2 which is actually a year or so newer than the v2. Your wrong get over yourself and move on. Have a nice day

 did you look at the photos above ya tard?? v2s did not have removable brake mounts. this frame was out the year before those completes came out aha. Not to mention it has chain tensioners. NO complete frames come with those. kids these days

 did you look at the photos above ya tard?? v2s did not have removable drop outs. this frame was out the year before those completes came out aha. Not to mention it has f*cking chain tensioners. NO complete frames come with those. kids these days

 did you look at the photos above ya tard?? v2s did not have removable drop outs. this frame was out the year before those completes came out aha. Not to mention is had f*cking chain tensioners. NO complete frames come with those. kids these days

 id maybe ship to bc

 he said you must of failed french class pretty badly : )

 yes but it is flat black now

 http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/7377420/
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/7377434/
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/7377423/
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/7377426/

also mr bmxr-369 aha I can also show you pics of the built in tensioners. (the complete fundays dont have them)

Thanks and have a good day!

 you are an idiot need some more proof???

 http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/4618640/

 srry to say but your wrong dude! need some proof??

 just thought you might want to see that coming from the big guy and not me : )

 Yes our frames are very good in dirt jumps, lots of our customers and sponsored riders are doing pretty well on dj with our frames.

Personally i always market our frames as MTBMX.... The only reason some companies make frames for dj or street is marketing (to sell more frames).

Cheers!

Alain Lavoie
Dobermann Bikes

 no sorry

 bahah. how is it odd then that i compared two hardtails? hmm? if i ride everything on both? my point exactly.

 i use it for light freeriding and trailriding. and yes i have rode a p1 and a capitol. a few degrees isnt going to make you a better rider. im sorry. go tell garret reynolds that he made horrible mistake by riding his street bmx in a park competition and winning the dew tour title. The rider is most important part. i dont care what you say, im done this argument.

 your right i don't really care what you have to say anymore. this is pinkbike after all. it's obvious that you guys aren't very open minded so why should i continue to share my point of view? All i can say is if thats true then you better go tell 90 percent of bmxers that they are not riding their bike correctly because they ride street bmxs on dirt. even in competition aha.

 He was trying to act as if both frames are completely different; that they are incomparable. they have lots of similarities as i listed. My argument is that just because of a few subtle geo differences doesn't mean that you can't dirtjump your dobermann. dobermanns are sick dj rigs. and just because the 26 player is not marketed for street doesn't mean it sucks balls at it. I think you guys really can't think on your own and are the marketers mercy when they start claiming that this geo will make you "twice" the rider and that everything will be sooo much easier. The rider is the most important part, if he feels comfortable on his bike, then who are you to say he has the wrong geo??? Geo counts don't get me wrong but its not like im comparing a bmx to a dh bike, for what's better at downhill racing.